Street fighting

[Beyond]

Originally Posted by trash can man

t's amazing how fast you can get out of a rear naked choke simply by reaching back grabbing the family jewels and crush and twist.

Maybe against someone who has no idea what the fuck they're doing.

A proper RNC should allow ZERO space between the back of the opponent and the front part of you. Your hooks should be in deep.

Hell maybe even a body triangle but if you know anything about BJJ, then you know that it's so effective because they rarely give you any room to work with.

I guarantee that if I have the back of an opponent and a choke sunk in, you won't have the space to grab my balls let alone the time to do so before you're blacking out. A good choke only takes a few seconds to render the person unconscious.

You should read/learn more before you run your mouth.

And as for your last comment, I seem to remember you saying you still live with momy.

As do 80% of people my age and as much on this forum, want to further attack moot points?

[s25]

Just wish to say no flaming and also beyond thank you for not falling what was obviously flame bait.
We can discuss and debate like adults cant we?

[cebs]

Double leg> mount>transition via blows to his face>sink hooks in>rear naked
choke. You are a extremely stupid little boy. Which delta force manual did you
read that in?. And you've worked all this out the split second before a fight have
ya?. I was going to
You know what, Fuck it. you are the net hard man. Evything
you say is correct, you've never ever lost a fight, you are totally n utterly INfkg
FALLIBLE. I hope I'm never unfortunate enough to cross your path. Sorry for riling
you.
YOU ARE A GOD.
Now fuck off back to your Jackie Chan video,navy seal trng
manual or better still go and deal with the issues you so obviously have.
mummys likkle soldier

[Beyond]

Originally Posted by cebs

You are a extremely stupid little boy. Which delta force manual did you
read that in?.

None, that's a routine and common scenario between a BJJer and anyone not versed in fighting.

Example?

Here ya go: http://youtube.com/watch?v=YJoknjuSjgs

Ralek Gracie doing pretty much the same thing, granted a few things prevented him from transitioning as ideally. From what I've read from the video, he only had a few weeks/months of BJJ training.

And you've worked all this out the split second before a fight have
ya?.

If you can't develop some sort of strategy before a fight and are just going in there to swing, you've got a punchers chance. I don't like those odds so I always develop a game plan based off of what I know about the guy.

If he's shorter than me and has no experience, from what I've gathered, I'll use my reach and keep it at striking.

If he's taller than me then I will look to get in close and possibly clinch or fight inwards, ala Mike Tyson.

So many characteristics can help you develop a game plan, and most you can decide from the second you see the other kid. You obviously wouldn't want to grapple with a kid much larger than you if you have minimal experience with grappling would you? No, he's pretty much at an equal field with you.

In fighting, you always want the edge.

You know what, Fuck it. you are the net hard man.

Net hard? Didn't you PM me claiming to be some awesome hacker? Don't make me post the convo's showing everyone how you attempt to be "net hard".

Evything you say is correct, you've never ever lost a fight, you are totally n utterly INfkg FALLIBLE.

Oh god, I've lost TONS of fights, but only in the gym. I think I've been in one or two street fights in my life? I don't go out looking for fights and I definitely don't do it in the streets unless it's inevitable.

[trash can man]

Originally Posted by Beyond

I think I've been in one or two street fights in my life?

OK firstly I can tell you know what you're speaking about, but things do go very differntly on the street.
What happens when you're grappling on the ground with old mate and his buddy decides to join in?
Secondly I mean no disrespect to you personally, I just enjoy a good debate, and you have just admitted you don't have alot of experience on the street.
Thirdly my comment about you still living at home was out of line and I apologise.
I like this place and wish no bad blood between any of the members.

[Beyond]

Oh I don't have a lot of experience on the street fighting, but I have seen hundreds of fights take place.

Buddies jumping in happens but rarely. Usually someone has the common sense to pull them back or prevent them from helping. I've done it a few times and once the person realizes what they're doing, they'll often agree with you.

Emotion and tension runs high in a moment like this, best judgment should always be exercised. If he does have his buddies and you don't, don't fight period. Let alone try to strike or grapple.

Like I said earlier, each scenario calls for its own set of rules. Ideally, no one jumps in and that's why I chose that approach.